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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Feb 3, 2013 0:30:19 GMT -5
Here's a quick concept deck for Kitsune Honor in Bushi. Pretty straightforward.
KKXP - BH - BK
Dyn:
3 Kobune Port
3 Prosperous Village
3 Temple of Hotei
3 Temple Fortress
1 Buried Treasure
2 Overgrown Grove
1 Boastful Proclamation
2 Delayed Arrival
2 Moshi Madoka
3 Moshi Tomeno
3 Kitsune Denhei
3 Kitsune Haruki
3 Kitsune Kohaki
3 Kitsune Gina
3 Kitsune Tokuro
1 Kitsune Ohsuki
1 Moshi Madoka XP
Fate:
3 Obscured Pathways
3 Inescapable Snare
3 Incite Phantoms
3 Sudden Guardian
3 Block Supply Lines
3 Unimpeachable Name
3 Duel of Serpents
3 Rocky Terrain
3 Hard Pressed
2 Broken Cipher
1 Celestial Sword of the MN
2 Dazzling Attire
3 Singh Remnants
3 Home Guard
RoE
RoF
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Post by Hida Okami on Feb 3, 2013 9:37:54 GMT -5
I was wondering if this deck could be done in Bushi - great to see a list!
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Feb 3, 2013 10:22:44 GMT -5
I was wondering if this deck could be done in Bushi - great to see a list! Easily actually. The deck only loses a few tools and the replacements are solid. I actually think this should do really well vs most military in the format. |
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Post by Hida Okami on Feb 3, 2013 10:35:03 GMT -5
Indeed - personality-wise, you only really lose Kichi, Merihiko and Hisano (and Unmei in my case). Losing Ageless Shrine hurts a bit, Sheltered Port not so much. Without it, though, no reason to run Second City Port, until Torn Asunder, when we get Damaged Port. But I'm not sure the port scheme really fits this deck.
Fate-side, though... I have to swap out 2/3 of my deck. You lose so much of your honor production that I wonder if the defensive military approach can hold long enough to win on Honor. Given that, have you considered Rugashi Bazaar in your Dynasty?
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Feb 3, 2013 11:31:51 GMT -5
I never played port scheme or ageless in my Kitsune decks so no loss there. Really only lost peddler and togt.
No need for rugashi unless DH becomes a problem.
I don't know what your EE Kitsune looks like, but I really didn't need to change the composition and a lot of my changes are for good cards that I didn't play solely based on play style. I'll post my current EE deck for reference later.
EDIT - posted EE version for reference.
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Post by Hida Okami on Feb 3, 2013 13:06:17 GMT -5
Ageless was too good - cheaper nonhumansd and straighten any of your spirits (and an attachment). I also lost Beseech Sakkaku, The Mountain's Power, Entrenched Position, Oblivious, Desperate Mediation, Wrathful Ancestor and Sundering Strike on Fate side.
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Feb 3, 2013 20:35:03 GMT -5
My problem with Ageless in EE Kitsune is that the gold is usually too tight to bow it for the straighten, the straighten isn't usually needed because of the sheer number of peeps you get, and there are only Kichi and Kohaki that it pays more for. I'd rather have an honor gain holding.
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Feb 11, 2013 16:15:41 GMT -5
Reworking this tonight - have some ideas that I think will really make it strong in Bushi  |
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Post by Hida Okami on Feb 14, 2013 22:32:52 GMT -5
I would now take out Tomeno for Yuribara (the butterfly lady). Vanilla Madoka isn't really needed either - I took her out to slot in a couple Merchant Outposts.
I run one less Overgrown Grove (I dislike the notion of discarding six cards per turn) to run one more event - either Delayed Arrival or perhaps A Dangerous Game.
Also, I'm still not sold on Sudden Guardian - there's got to be a better Earth spell to take its place - Nature's Wrath, Rage of the Spirits, Taming the Beast, or Warded Paths?
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Feb 15, 2013 0:08:21 GMT -5
I love overgrown grove it's a recurring printed action on a card that can bow for an honor off the box.
Madoka will become butterfly. Tomeno stays.
Play style maybe, idk
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Apr 27, 2013 22:36:49 GMT -5
Got this updated for Grove City's side event if I don't make the cut. Will post the updated list later this weekend  |
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Post by Salticidae on Jun 3, 2013 20:14:41 GMT -5
I'm interested in building this deck, but I'm wondering about a few things:
Anchored in Earth seems like a good fit here - it helps prevent you from being blown out quite as hard by things like Back to the Front, The Snow Has Teeth, Ancient Feud, and the like.
I'm not sure I understand the point of the small thunder shugenja without any of the good thunder kill spells. Is it just because they're cheap and have a couple points of force? Why not splash in some Dragon earth shugenja, like Tamori Muzu or Tamori Kusugi, to help with the defensive aspect of the deck? Or, if you want to stay in-clan, why not use Mantis personalities with ranged attacks to get men off the table (like Tsurichi Kosoko or Tsurichi Tomaru)? It just seems like you can do better than some random vanilla guys - you don't particularly need a ton of shugenja since all of the Pokemon trainers have that trait, and without good thunder spells (A Dragon's Favor, Deafening Thunder, Thunder's Favor), I don't understand what purpose they serve.
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Jun 4, 2013 12:45:02 GMT -5
Well, Madoka could come out easily but Tomeno is great here. She costs 2 and has 3 force and naval for when I need to switch. She is a shrug too so while not optimal, she can still play earth spells in a pinch.
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Aug 1, 2013 12:18:23 GMT -5
Well... Hitting the drawing board with this deck to give a Bushi deck a run at Gencon in the Second Chance.
I feel that this has the best pool of Bushi Legal cards in the format for Mantis. I really want to play AL, but it's not as consistent.
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Post by neoclown on Dec 16, 2013 10:23:42 GMT -5
Now that Aftermath is legal and Gates has been out a while, I can't help but think some things could change. Not much though, as this is a solid build.
I would add...
- Yoritomo Yashinko - Exp
- Kitsune Yuko
- Kitsune Yamazaru
I also really like...
- Gates of Chikushudo
What do you guys think about Hold the Walls? Doubled up with a Fox and every personality/follower attacking is getting -2F. Do you think this could replace Hard Pressed? Below is my version of the deck so far. There will be at least one Scorpion Dishonor and one Crab Dishonor at the event, so I'm using the Bazaar.
1 Kyuden Kitsune - exp
1 Bamboo Harvesters
1 Border Keep
Dynasty (40)
1 Boastful Proclamation
2 Delayed Arrival
1 Buried Treasures
3 Kobune Port
3 Prosperous Village
2 Rugashi Bazaar
2 Temple Fortress
3 Temple of Hotei
3 Kitsune Denhei
3 Kitsune Gina
2 Kitsune Haruki
1 Kitsune Ohsuki
3 Kitsune Tokoru
2 Kitsune Yamazaru
2 Kitsune Yuko
1 Moshi Madoka - exp
3 Moshi Tomeno
1 Yoritomo Yashinko - exp
2 Overgrown Grove
Fate (42 right now)
3 Home Guard
3 Singh Remnants
1 Celestial Sword of the Mantis - exp
2 Dazzling Attire
1 Ring of Earth
1 Ring of Fire
2 Gates of Chikushudo
3 Incite the Phantoms
3 Inescapable Snare
3 Obscured Pathways
3 Sudden Guardian
3 Block Supply Lines
2 Broken Cipher
3 Duel of Serpents
3 Hard Pressed (Hold the Walls?)
3 Rocky Terrain
3 Unimpeachable Name
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Post by Tsuruchi pewpew on Dec 21, 2013 8:50:45 GMT -5
Hey! Great suggestions! I've not updated because I've been gearing up for IvE. I'll definitely have IvE lists up soon though!
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